A sit down interview with the author
You are a criminal defense
attorney in London. Has real life ever been stranger than fiction?
Most definitely life has been stranger than fiction. My most memorable
case involved a woman accused of fraud and had used multiple identities. My
client insisted that she was, let’s call her, Emma Smith, even when the
prosecution brought the real Emma Smith and her entire family to court. It was
absolutely crazy and to this day I am no closer to knowing this woman’s true
identity.
What's something about your
job that you wish people knew?
There is absolutely no glamour in my job. My working life is not an
episode of Suits. Sitting around in police station at 4am is not glamorous and
there is so much time spent waiting. I
was never told in law school that I would spend so much time waiting for either
clients to arrive, or for the police to be ready for interview. There was one
occasion where I attended court for my case which was scheduled to start at
10am. The case wasn’t called on until 3.30pm.
Will there be more books with
DI Anjelica Henley?
Absolutely. DI Anjelica Henley’s story isn’t over. I’ve recently finished
book 2 in the series so there will definitely be more of her.
Why do think there aren't as
many #ownvoices novels in the mystery/thriller genre?
There are many #ownvoices in the mystery/thriller genre but for some
inexplicable reason these voices are not being elevated or promoted as
voraciously. I suspect that there’s a misconception that #ownvoices writers can
only tell one type of story which is not true. Our storytelling is as diverse
as the #ownvoices writers. I’m hopeful that things are now changing and that
these talented writers are being placed on a higher platform.
What are some of your
favorite #ownvoices novels?
The Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan, Blacktop Wasteland by S.A. Cosby, Such a
Fun Age by Kiley Reid, This Lovely City by Louise Hare, Take it Back by Kia
Abdullah
Do you work from an outline
or just fly by the seat of your pants?
I could never fly from the seat of my pants. My characters would be
wandering around aimlessly in the middle of a field if I didn’t have a plan. I
always outline the first draft of my book. I call my outline a safety net. My
outline is not something that I stick to rigidly as sometimes a character can
take you off in an unexpected direction and a subplot can appear out of
nowhere.
Coffee or Tea?
Tea! Always tea with milk, sugar and a biscuit on the side! There has to
be biscuits.
What do you use to inspire
you when you get Writer’s Block?
Nature. The best thing for me to do if I get stuck is to leave the house.
I will usually walk around my local park or go to the river. I love being near
water and I find that it’s the best place to be if I need to expand my mind.
Favorite Season (Fall,
Winter, Spring, Summer)?
This is not an easy question because I love all seasons. I love the
crispness of winter, the new beginnings of Spring and the gentleness of Fall,
but Summer is probably my favorite season. Summer feels like freedom.
What has been the hardest
thing about publishing? What has been the most fun?
The hardest thing has been trying to meet the deadline for the second
book whilst trying to finish edits on the first book. The most fun has been
holding my book in my hands for the first time and having readers contacting me
to say how much they’ve enjoyed ‘The Jigsaw Man.’
What advice would you give
budding authors?
Read a lot and write the story that you want to tell. Don’t worry about
what’s number one in the bestseller charts or if anyone will buy your book. The
most important thing is to write your story and to finish.
Who would play DI Henley in
the TV/movie adaptation?
Naomie Harris.
Do you find yourself unnerved
or even somewhat scared while writing crime stories?
No. There’s not been one moment where I’ve felt the need to fall asleep
with the light on after whilst writing my stories. It may be that I’m very
skilled at compartmentalizing. I’ve always said I wouldn’t have lasted six
weeks if thought about all of the cases that I’d worked on as a newly qualified
Criminal Defence Attorney. I’m able to sleep very well at night.
What are you reading right
now?
Lightseekers by Femi Kayode.
THE
JIGSAW MAN
Author:
Nadine Matheson
ISBN:
9781335146564
Publication
Date: March 16, 2021
Publisher:
Hanover Square Press
Book Summary:
In THE JIGSAW MAN (March 16, 2021; Hanover Square Press), Detective Inspector Anjelica Henley has a lot to deal with on her first day back her from leave from the Serial Crimes Unit of Scotland Yard. After nearly becoming a victim of the vicious serial killer, The Jigsaw Man, just before he was put behind bars, she also has to contend with the subtle digs and microaggressions that come with being the unit’s only black female detective. Add a new trainee and a rocky marriage to the mix, and DI Henley nearly has a full plate. Until the first call comes in...
Along the Thames, a fan of the Jigsaw Man and copycat killer has scattered two dismembered bodies along the shores like a jigsaw puzzle. When DI Henley sees one of the victims, a young black woman, is already being written off by her colleagues, she makes it her mission to solve the case, driving her to seek help from the original Jigsaw Man himself, Peter Oliver. Oliver, however, is determined to get to his copycat before Henley can, and sets into motion a series of events that puts Henley and her family in the crosshairs of two monstrous serial killers.
Excerpt:
Chapter Two
‘How long have we got until the tide comes
in?’ Henley was facing the river watching the small waves crashing against the
derelict pier. She checked her watch. Nearly two hours had passed since the
first 999 call.
‘I checked online,
and high tide is at 9.55 a.m.’ Ramouter replied as he stepped around a
half-submerged car tire, his eyes glazed with anxiety. ‘Low tide was at 3.15.
Sunrise was at 6.32. A three-hour window for someone to dump whoever this is
and hope that someone would find it before the tide comes in?’
‘Maybe,’ Henley
acknowledged. ‘But for all we know it could have been dumped after sunrise or
was dumped earlier upstream before being washed up here.’ She inspected the
glass façade of the Borthwick Wharf, empty commercial spaces and work units
that opened to the terrace and lacked security cameras. Henley doubted that the
local council would have extended their own CCTV cameras to this part of the
street. They had been neglecting this part of Deptford for as long as she could
remember.
‘Has it been
touched?’ Henley asked Anthony who had appeared at her side.
‘As far as I’m aware,
it’s in situ. It wasn’t touched by the woman who found it. Matei, your builder,
said that he hadn’t touched the legs but unhelpfully, it’s covered in his
vomit. I had a quick look at the arms that were found downstream before I came
here. From the looks of things, the treasure hunters may have prodded around a
bit.’
‘There’s always one.’
The wind dropped and
the air softly crackled with the electricity generated from the substation
nearby.
‘We’re isolating the
recovery of evidence to the direct path from the alleyway to the torso,’ said
Anthony. ‘I doubt very much that whoever it was sat here and had a coffee
afterwards.’
‘They may not have
had a coffee, but if we go with Ramouter’s theory and the body parts have been
dumped then whoever it was certainly knows the river,’ Henley replied. ‘We’ll
let you get on. Ramouter and I are going to take a walk.’
‘Where are we going?’
asked Ramouter.
‘To meet Eastwood.’
‘And you want to walk
it?’
Henley did her best
to push aside her frustration when Ramouter pulled out his phone. ‘Google maps
says that Greenwich pier is almost a mile away,’ he said.
‘Your body-part
dumper isn’t the only one who knows the river,’ Anthony shouted out as Henley
began to walk determinedly along the riverbank.
The gold scepters on the twin domed roofs of
the Old Royal Naval College pierced the cloudless sky. The bare masts of the
restored Cutty Sark completed the
historical panoramic view that Greenwich was known for. It was a resplendent,
whitewashed version of history that contrasted with the sewage that washed
ashore. Henley stopped walking when she realized that she could no longer hear
the sounds of Ramouter’s leather soles slipping on wet pebbles.
‘Where are you from?’
Henley asked, waiting for Ramouter to take off his jacket and loosen his tie.
She moved closer towards the moss-covered river wall as the tide began to
encroach.
‘Born in West
Bromwich. Moved to Bradford when I was twelve.’ Ramouter tried to brush off the
bits of mud that had stuck to his trousers, but they only smeared more. ‘Lots
of moors, no rivers. Surely it would have been quicker in the car.’
‘This is quicker.
Unless you fancy sitting in traffic for the next half hour while they raise the
Creek Road Bridge.’
‘You know this area
well?’
Henley ignored the
question. She didn’t see the point in telling him that she could have walked
this path with her eyes closed. That this small part of South-East London was
ingrained in her. ‘Whoever dumped the torso would have taken this route. It
doesn’t make any sense to come down here, go back up to the street level and
then drive up to Watergate Street. Out of sight, below street level. Lighting
would have been minimal.’
‘Body parts are heavy
though,’ Ramouter tried to quicken his step to catch up with Henley. ‘The human
head weighs at least eight pounds.’
‘I know.’ Henley
pulled out her mobile phone, which had started to ring. She saw who it was and
ignored the call.
‘Head, torso, arms,
legs. That’s at least six individual body parts.’
‘I know that also.
So, tell me, what point are you making?’ Henley waited for Ramouter to reach
her before maneuvering him towards the river wall as though she was chaperoning
a child.
‘I’m just saying that
that’s a lot of dead weight to be carrying around at three in morning.’
Ramouter paused and placed his hand against the wall, trying to catch his
breath.
Henley didn’t openly
express her agreement. She fished out a black hair band from her jacket pocket
and pulled her thick black curls into a ponytail. She had forgotten how much
energy it took to walk across the gradient slope of the riverbank. Worse, she
felt mentally unprepared for the job ahead, with a trainee struggling behind her
who had no idea this was her first time as senior investigator in almost a
year.
‘It’s a bit grim, isn’t it?’ DC Roxanne
Eastwood shouted out as Henley finally reached the first crime scene. ‘Morning,
Ramouter. Not a bad gig for your first day.’
Henley had always
thought that Eastwood actually looked and carried herself like a detective.
Now, Eastwood was poised on the riverbank, the sleeves of her jacket rolled up
with her notebook in her hand. She had come prepared for the river and was
wearing a pair of jeans and trainers that had seen better days.
‘Morning, Eastie. How
does it feel to be out of the office?’ Henley asked, her eyes drifting to a
crime scene investigator who was putting an arm into a black bag.
‘I should be asking
you that,’ said Eastwood, with a look of concern.
Henley silently
appreciated the empathy and placed her hand on Eastwood’s shoulder.
‘But since you asked,
it’s bloody terrible. I think I’ve got sunburn.’ Eastwood rubbed a hand over
her reddening forehead. ‘Forensics are going to be wrapping up in a bit. Not
that there’s much for them to do. Bag it and tag it.’
‘Where’s Mr Thomas?’
‘Ah, our illustrious
treasure hunter. Last time I saw him he was heading towards the shops. Said
that he needed to get some water for his dog.’ Eastwood shook her head,
obviously not believing a word of it. ‘I’ve got an officer keeping an eye on
him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d already uploaded pictures of his find onto
Instagram.’
‘I want him taken
back to the station. Ramouter can take another statement from him.’ Henley said
it purposely so that Ramouter would sense she was in control. ‘If he’s like
most mudlarkers, he would have been out here first thing this morning waiting
for the tide to go out. Where exactly were the arms found?’
‘Just over there.’
Eastwood pulled down her sunglasses and pointed towards the foamed waves
created by a passing river bus. The tide had already come in where X had once
marked the spot. A sense of urgency filled the air as the river regained its
territory.
‘Did he say anything
else?’
‘Only that he found
the second arm about three feet away from the first.’
‘It’s a sick trail of
breadcrumbs,’ said Henley.
‘You’re telling me
and before you ask about CCTV, there’re loads of cameras—’
‘But none aimed at
this part of the river.’
‘Exactly.’
Henley’s mobile phone
began to ring. She pulled it out and answered. After a quick chat, she ended
the call.
‘That was Dr Linh
Choi. You wouldn’t have met her yet but she’s our go-to forensic pathologist.
She’s just arrived,’ Henley explained to Ramouter. She wiped away the sweat
from the back of her neck.
‘So, we’ve got two
arms, both legs and a torso,’ said Ramouter. ‘Where’s the head?’
Good question. Henley
thought of the places between the two locations. A primary school, two
nurseries and an adventure playground among the flats and houses. The last
thing she needed was to find a head in the kids’ sandpit.
‘Can I have a quick
look?’ Henley asked the assistant from Anthony’s CSI team, who had just bagged
up the arm and was scribbling in her notebook.
‘Sure.’ The assistant
unzipped the bag and pushed the plastic apart.
‘Fuck,’ Henley said
under her breath. Her heartbeat quickened, her stomach flipped.
‘Oh,’ said Ramouter
as he peered over Henley’s shoulder. One arm was covered with gravel. Slivers
of seaweed criss-crossed old scars. The second arm. Slender wrist, the ring
finger slightly longer than the index, broken fingernails. Black skin. Henley
could hear Pellacia’s words from earlier ringing in her ears.
‘Too early to say if
it belongs to the same victim or if it’s more than just one.’
‘Call DSI Pellacia,’ Henley told Ramouter. ‘Tell him that we’ve got two possible murder victims.’
Excerpted from The Jigsaw Man by
Nadine Matheson, Copyright © 2021 by Nadine Matheson
Published by Hanover Square Press
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Nadine Matheson is a criminal
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She lives in London, UK.
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